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Posted by: Orisla Admin
UPDATED: 9/8/2023

Hello everyone, and thank you again for being a part of the early stages of this project. I can happily say that we are succeeding in our goal of having a positive initial culture. With that in mind, we have been in discussion to try to figure out how we want to handle times in which the rules are violated. Because this platform is attempting to operate differently than other platforms, we want the community to have a say in how these violations are handled.

Below is a list of the tools moderators have at their disposal once a topic is reported.
Note - These are utilized by site moderators but also by the individuals who have created a topic or a sub-category. Don't forget you are responsible for moderating your topics and sub-categories. In exchange you receive a cut of every Recognition exchanged in your topic/sub-category. If you do not want that responsibility you are welcome to put someone else's username in the Recognition Split and they can moderate it for you. If the user who owns the topic or sub-category bans or blocks the user in question, they will not have access to that topic or sub-category. If a site moderator bans or blocks someone, the user will not have access to the site.

Warning - the user will receive a pop-up text box with a message from the moderator

Ban - a temporary block from the Topic or sub-category.

Block - a permanent ban

How do you want to use these tools? 
What kinds of content requires intervention? 
What kind of intervention should it receive?

I'll update this Topic to include the discussion points.

Updates:
We have received some feedback and are in the process of incorporating it into the current structure. The discussion now continues to allocate which offenses are considered Minor, Medium, or Major.

Minor - Warning
1. Failing to utilize site designations correctly (we should anticipate most new users will need some direction here. The site designations can be confusing at first).
2. Posting someone else's content without citing a source / indicating it is  Not OC (Not original content)
3. Spamming Comments
4. Inappropriate username / avatar
5.

Medium - Bans: 1 day to 1 week
1. Speech that is attacking individuals or groups
2. Failing to adjust accordingly following repeated warnings
3. Attempting to steal the content from other users for financial gain
4. Posting NSFW content outside of a NSFW designated sub-category
5.

Major - Block, Site-wide Block
1. Failing to adjust accordingly following repeated bans
2. Scamming others / Posting links to Phishing or harmful sites
3. Impersonating another individual, or pretending to represent an organization
4.

Thoughts?
Anything we need to add or change?

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Posted by: Hiraeth

So this is a level of offenses. Like for the first offense, user will received only a warning then goes to Medium until Major offense?


Maybe we can also include the following?:

*Spamming of Comments
-Falls into warning if user still does not follow will fall under the Medium Offense.

*Scamming other people
-Automatic Major

*Posting Phishing sites
-Automatic Major

*Inappropriate Name or Username
-Warning and can be raise to higher offense

*Inappropriate Image or Avatar
-Warning and can be raise to higher offense

*Impersonation
-Impersonating someone, user or even as a part of the company etc.
-Automatic Major


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Posted by: smontaos

This is interesting. Maybe we can put words that can be automatically rejected by the system or can trigger a warning such as words with profanity and such. To make it easier to see comments or posts tjat should be moderated or reported.  


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Posted by: BigOleBobcat
They'll just get cute with it and find other ways to spell out the words they mean.

One person becomes aware that there's a ban on the word peanut and next thing you know you've got people abusing it for fun.

You'll see p3anut, speanuts, p-e-a-n-u-t, p eanut, pe anut, ect. But they'll do that for every banned word just for the fun of finding loopholes and to prove to their friends that they're very clever.

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Posted by: DimmaDontTalkToMe
Personally I think hate speech should come with an automatic temporary ban of at least a few days.


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Posted by: iam_louise

Content that requires intervention includes anything that violates the platform's guidelines and policies. This could involve offensive language, hate speech, personal attacks, harassment, or any form of content that negatively impacts the community's experience.

For minor infractions, maybe a warning could be issued to educate the user about the community guidelines.

In cases where the violation is more serious, a temporary ban might be necessary to deter further misconduct and allow the user time to reflect on their behavior.

In extreme cases, when the content poses significant harm or repeatedly violates guidelines, a permanent ban might be the appropriate course of action.

This is from my perspective only.

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Posted by: Orisla Admin

What constitutes a minor infraxtion to you, and what constitutes a major infraction? 


Also bear in mind we aren't talking about illegal content in this discussion. This content will result in an automatic block and will be reported to law enforcement. 

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Posted by: iam_louise

Minor - repetitive posts, misleading information and fake news/deceptive content, copyrighted images


Major/more serious - hate speech, bullying, harassment, offensive language, etc

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Posted by: BigOleBobcat
Claiming other peoples' content as their own for Recognition - Ban for 3 days and given a warning that they will be blocked, if not blocked outright.

Can we have the ability to fine users and have them pay with Recognition? I think if someone makes a bunch of Recognition off of someone else's work they should be fined the amount they made at least, otherwise they'll do it again.

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Posted by: LivingLegacyOfHope

I would agree if they make recognition on someone's else's work that recognition should be given to original owner of that work


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Posted by: AcePortgas

Just a thought.. 


Maybe we can use a block for people who post things that torment or cause discomfort in the community. NSFW content, repeatedly spreading false information/news, continuous disrespect to a person/ community, etc. 

I think we can use banning for people who posts/comment insensitively on a topic. The kind who always makes fun of others. 

Warning can be used mostly for topics/comments that give indirect meaning towards their real motive which can cause confusion or slight discomfort to others.

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Posted by: BigOleBobcat

Maybe we should have a nsfw sub-category and let that be the only place on the site that nsfw content is allowed to be. Let them use the built in category system. Maybe we should have therapists run that one.


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Posted by: princessblossom17

This idea could be great as well but with age restrictions like minors not allowed in this category maybe?


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Posted by: AcePortgas

Therapists running the nsfw category sounds interesting. I would love to listen to their thoughts regarding a person personality based on what they shared. 


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Posted by: BigOleBobcat
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Reply to: princessblossom17

This idea could be great as well but with age restrictions like minors not allowed in this category maybe?


We can make it so other things are visible based on age demographics, maybe it can be cross-transferred. This isn't intended to be a site for minors though afaik

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Posted by: Basma1990

Automatic ban for hate speech.


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Posted by: princessblossom17

Agree with the ban but with a duration like the first offense (sample 2 hours), the second (would be 12 hours and so until let's say a week or 2) depending on the severity of the violation.


Words must be moderated like hate speech, bullying, drugs, suicidal threats, pornography, profanity, racism, extremism, etc.

There should be like first offense, a second until 3rd, and lastly an escalation to management or higher-ups to decide if blocked or should be until how many offenses then auto-block.

Why need escalation? Maybe nice to have a queue for them handled by moderators.

Con's, could be some words used as a joke. (Sensitive since users may use green words or let's say different cultures have different dialects or street words)
Pros, could be easier to clean the site.

Hope, this helps. :)








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Posted by: LivingLegacyOfHope

 Maybe some discussion on 'speech attacking individuals or groups' as I agree but am seeing that being used against some who are exposing corruption 


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Posted by: Hiraeth

I can edit my comment and include the following suggestions but I think it might not be noticeable so I'll gonna post a comment again. Sorry this may look like a spam comment.


Is it doable to include the following? Some of these are not specifically for reported topics:

*Perjury or False report
Reporting of false incidents and/or framing another users in the process.
-Can be minor or Medium

*Account Sharing
The act of sharing your account information to another users regardless of intent or reason. (Users can share their account to others and pretend to be them.)
Though question here, can a user create 1 or more accounts on our forum? I think users can manipulate the gained recognition here and have an advantage by having more accounts. If so, we can also restrict users to creating 1 account only.


*Using Hacking Tools to hack accounts or the website
Using a third-party program, website modification or other illegal means to access the forum in a manner that is not intended by the developers and results to an unfair advantage over other users
-Automatic Major

*Inappropriate Advertising or promotion
-This is a wide category and not sure what kind of inappropriate advertising/promotion should we consider aside posting phishing sites.(Open for suggestion)

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